Europe is 'reading the tea leaves' on Trump's Ukraine policy, says ex-NATO envoy

NATO Secretary-General Mark Rutte, left, meets with President Donald Trump and other officials in the Oval Office on Wednesday in Washington. Rutte met with Trump ahead of next month

NPR's Michel Martin speaks with Kurt Volker, former U.S. ambassador to NATO, about the dynamics between the NATO alliance, its leader, and President Trump.

(Image credit: Andrew Harnik)

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